From: feren	Date: February 10th, 2004 08:51 am (UTC)		(Link)
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I don't know that it's the world so much as the American public. We have too much time on our hands as a whole, coupled with some seriously broken priorities. Join these two aspects together and you've got nothing good.

	From: feren	Date: February 10th, 2004 08:50 am (UTC)		(Link)
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[people who were raving about the Janet Jackson boob thingee and I bring up the awful violence on TV. Boy, they shut up right away.]

I'm not sure which is higher -- the body count in your average episode of Weekly Action TV Series [too many examples to choose from] or the body count in your average Terminator film. And then we have the evening news, which brings us all sorts of fun. If it's okay for our kids to watch some guy's head being blown off by an RPG in a movie or on the news, where is the problem with Jackson flashing the Super Bowl? Would somebody tell me why are we losing our collective minds over a nipple? A nipple is a lot less likely to injure somebody than a depleted-uranium explosive-tipped chemround fired from a tank!

I'll be honest here... I think the problem isn't that we have too much nudity on television, I think we don't have enough. Like Denis Leary said, men are absolutely mollified by nipples. If we saw more nipples on television we'd be too busy staring to go out and start barfights! And I dare you to imagine how peaceful things would be if we saw more than nipples! And hey, I'm a progressive guy... if men get to see naked women then by all means women should get to see naked men by the bucketload. Bring on the Chippendale dancers without their little posing pouches. Nudity for all! In my mind kids could do a lot worse than to see a naked man or a naked woman once in a while on TV when there's other garbage on with depressing regularity (I think of trailer-trash fighting over a block of moldy cheese three channels down on the Jerry Springer Show for some reason).

[Oh, I am one of Ted's friends]

A pleasure to meet you. You must be brave to be posting in my little center of angst. ;)

	From: mesmericone	Date: February 10th, 2004 09:05 am (UTC)		(Link)
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Thanks and I totally agree w/your statements. I am sure one of the reasons for less violence in Europe is the fact that they have little to no violence on TV.

A naked human body is a thing of art for pete's sake. Plus, if parents were parents and monitored their child's viewing habits, I think that things would be a lot better as well.

I love your philosphy about men w/nipples:) I can really see that:) hee,hee.....

	From: aynjel	Date: February 10th, 2004 09:10 am (UTC)		(Link)
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Ahh, but violence is socially acceptable. Sexuality is not.

Somewhat flip, but mostly true.

There's still an extremely repressed mindset that sexuality, and any blatent evidence of it (i.e., female nipples and men's naked dicks), is going to totally destroy the core of civilization (at least in this country). We have, to a certain extent, become desensitized to violence because there is so much "fantasy violence" (action movies, video games). Perhaps we need more realistic, more accessible games like Larry the Lounge Lizard or whatever it was. Plunk that in the hands of teenagers and let 'em go to town. Then maybe seeing nekkid bodies won't be such a big deal and maybe the cosmetics industry and the plastic surgery industry will get the smack-down the so righteously deserve when people realize that not everyone looks like Barbie or Ken.

Huh. I seem to have lost my point somewhere in there. I'm doing that a lot lately...

	From: feren	Date: February 10th, 2004 08:40 am (UTC)		(Link)
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Actually Bill didn't say this with regards to the Janet Jackson Boob Incident (which has blown out of proportion as mentioned in brianblackberry's journal entry here). This comment came after a big stink was made in the newspaper this morning over some upcoming nudity in tonight's episode of "NYPD Blue." Remember the big uproar it caused a few years ago by showing us Dennis Franz's pasty white ass? Well, apparently tonight it's going to have another bit of nudity. From what I hear there may even be the suggestion of sex in the scene -- oh the SHOCK and HORROR.

	From: yotogi	Date: February 11th, 2004 08:54 am (UTC)		(Link)
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That is the best icon ever.

	From: feren	Date: February 11th, 2004 11:00 am (UTC)		(Link)
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[or god's sake people, it's a nipple! Look down in the shower and you'll see two of 'em.]

Speak for yourself! *Groucho-esque waggle of eyebrows*

	From: genevra	Date: February 11th, 2004 11:35 am (UTC)		(Link)
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Ok.... I just don't wanna know.